presidential pissing contest
So some people think Kerry won, some people think Bush won. I think neither of them won, as no ones opinion was changed, nothing was accomplished, just politically correct bickering.
I read a transcript of the debate, I did not watch it on TV. I was able to read it much quicker then it would have taken to watch it on TV anyway, I’m sure. And it starts out with Kerry sucking up. Thanking all his sponsors and the host, blah blah. Of course Bush counter-sucks as soon as it’s his first turn to talk. Pathetic.
The debate was very single-minded concentrating almost entirely on the war on Iraq from an American perspective. The opponent is vicious and wrong and America has the correct morals and is right. I don’t really think poor people with nothing to lose who’ve got a grudge against America because of past actions that effected them have an invalid reason, or are any more morally right or wrong then we are, for fighting in any war.
They’re desperate, they don’t have fancy weapons and big budgets. Therefore, they resort to less fancy tactics. Indeed, some aren’t very good ones, but it’s not as if we’re perfect either. I don’t mean to rationalize their actions though, just take this out of such a biased American perspective.
They next both said something along the lines of to end our involvement in the war you must train the “good guys” who live in these countries of terror to fight off the enemy themselves. So basically train the people in Iraq to fight for themselves, so they can protect themselves. After reading this I instantly thought of how we’ve done such things in the past, helping Osama Bin Laden and Saddam Hussein in fighting wars of the past, later only to become our enemies.
Why should we be helping? If you’re going to take revenge, which is what America is doing no matter how you twist the argument, get to the point, take revenge. Don’t fuck around training people who might end up hating us for the casualties of that revenge. Or just hating us because they disagreed with the whole thing to begin with but didn’t join in and fight with our opponent because they saw it was futile at the time.
Bush refers to Iraq as “herself” which I found funny. Real cute. Not really a point against him though.
Next was some bullshit about how Kerry was in a war and how he knows how it is or what not. I’ve mentioned before I’m tired of hearing shit like that. We weren’t there along side him, we have no idea how it was, and it’s impossible to fully understand someone else’s perspective, which I’ve talked about many times before.
Presidential candidates, stop trying to appease the ego of American society and take a look at the situation from a perspective other than a rich business man’s. Quit turning this into a pissing contest, picking at each others holey arguments while missing all the holes and biting all the bait. I’ve seen better debates between angsty teens and their parents.
They bring up a statement Kerry said in 1971 about Vietnam and asked if it’s relevant today about Iraq. Are they trying to piss me off? 1971? Jesus christ it’s 2004, ask the question, leave out the incriminating bullshit. and stop trying to spin it off as more important than it is.
Alright and then we get to the whole flip flop thing. I’m really really tired of hearing that. I’ve got numerous things to say about it. One instance of this is Bush saying Kerry is a hypocrite because he changed his mind about a decision he made based upon something which was presented to him in one way, and executed in another. I really do see that as a problem with the executor, not the decider, don’t you? And guess who that was? It’s easy to be fooled by liars, if only Kerry could admit that instead of lying in defense.
I asked myself after I read about 60% of the debate, why is this entire debate about the war in Iraq and not about improving America? I wasn’t entirely sure if the whole thing would be covering Iraq as I hadn’t read it all yet, but my fears were verified and indeed the whole thing covered the same disgusting topic. Instead of talking about improving America, they talk about making Iraq a better place, and present the American ideology as some kind of golden moral system.
This is made worse when Bush says things like “if America shows uncertainty or weakness in this decade America will drift toward tragedy.” Sure that sounds nice and all at first but when he says things like “you can’t just say wrong war, wrong time, wrong place” or in otherwords, admit you’re wrong, it makes his initial point seem a lot less valid. He bases this conclusion upon an uncertainty. What message will this send our allies and opponents?
If being a hypocrite makes a better decision in the long run then it’s damn well better then having stuck to an old one in order to make yourself look better. That’s basically what he’s saying by making silly statements like “what message will that send.” As if he’s some insecure teenage girl with an eating disorder. What message will it send if I weigh 115 instead of 105? Oh no, I’m fat!
Fact of the matter is the American ego is already so huge, I doubt this would do much. And even if it did, a little ego deflation is certainly not the worst thing that could happen in this country…if not beneficial. Bush twists some words which I assume Kerry said by saying something like “how will you get our allies to support us when you’re saying things like we’re a grand diversion, join us for a war, that is, the wrong war at the wrong place at the wrong time.”
As if allies are supporting us all that much right now? Fact of the matter is I bet allies would support us more if we stopped acting like the imperialists we are and instead started saying “let’s end this.” I feel I’ve been drawn into stupidity by even talking about this war bullshit. The war is unimportant and should be ended so some more important issues like corruption in American politics and monopolies controlling the media can be covered. Ah but what are the chances of that?
All this is on top of the fact that proving someone a hypocrite doesn’t make them wrong, and being a hypocrite is better then sticking to a faulty decision in fear of showing weakness. Next topic.
I’ve mentioned this before and I’ll say it again, Kerry is an ass kiss. He starts mentioning Kennedy and Reagen saying how he thinks they were more effective at making decisions than Bush. Whoop-de-fucking-do. Where the hell is your point again? Amazingly enough, Bush didn’t bite that bait. He didn’t point out Kerry’s obvious blunder either.
I’ve concluded that these presidential candidates couldn’t argue themselves out of a cardboard box. I openly challenge either of them to take me on. What are the chances of that? Hell what’s the chances of me becoming world…err American leader?
Well I didn’t watch the debate because I thought it was useless and I was right. Reading it was less a waste of time. Hey look, now I’m not out of the loop!
You can fool all of the people some of the time, some of the people all of the time, and most Americans all of the time. You can’t fool me.